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Episode 24: How to Help Leaders Stick Around

May 23, 2022


Season 3, Episode 4:

We all know the principal who has led their school for over a decade. How does that happen? What makes them feel like they can make a difference year after year. Our guests today would say it is likely the kind of training and support they received before ever stepping into the role. This includes apprenticing expert leaders, engaging in relevant learning tasks, taking risks, and celebrating mastery to name a few. To nourish future leaders, and stem the growing tide of attrition, it’s all about setting them up for success in the first place.



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Dr. Andrea Kane


Andrea Kane

Dr. Andrea M. Kane has held a multitude of instructional roles including para-professional, classroom teacher, assistant principal, principal, senior manager for school improvement, Assistant Superintendent for Curriculum & Instruction, and Associate Superintendent for School Performance prior to being appointed as Superintendent of Schools for Queen Anne’s County. Dr. Kane’s visionary leadership proved to be effective in large suburban, urban, and small rural districts earning her the Governor’s Citation for instructional leadership, and recognition for the first fully virtual learning program for public elementary and middle school students in Maryland.

Connect with her on Twitter.


Tim Cusack


Tim Cusack

Tim is an educator with thirty years experience as a classroom teacher, department head, assistant principal, principal, assistant superintendent of learning services and currently serves as deputy superintendent of Edmonton Catholic Schools. Tim is passionate about leadership development, mentorship, systems change and improvement. He has over 35 years of service with the Royal Canadian Navy.

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Vince Bustamante


Vince Bustamante

Vince is an author and consultant with Corwin Press with 2 bestselling books: Great Teaching by Design and The Assessment Playbook for Distance and Blended Learning. He is currently working as an Assessment and Leadership Consultant with Edmonton Catholic Schools.

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Peter DeWitt


Peter DeWitt

Peter DeWitt (Ed.D.), a former school principal in Upstate, NY, previously taught elementary school for 11 years. His syndicated blog, Finding Common Ground, is published by Education Week and he is a freelance writer for Vanguard Magazine. Peter has traveled the world, developing content, visiting school sites, influencing policy, and presenting with John Hattie. He has worked with educators at schools, districts, educational service centers, and educational organizations, including the Council of Chief State School Officials. His presentations focus on school leadership, school climate, as well as safeguarding LGBT students and other social justice topics.

Learn more about Peter's onsite professional development consulting, Collaborative Leadership, and connect with him on Twitter.



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